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Below are some suggestions concerning communications among us. (Given in no particular order yet)


 

Misc to be intergrated into the ones below... copied from various e-mails...

 

You know what, Louis? I kind of wish that someone could video tape those meetings so we could have a copy of them, and maybe sell copies to those who want them. There is so much good information, comments made, etc. I wish I could remember it all. I'm not a good note taker and don't know shorthand writing and can't read my notes afterwards anyway. How about folks saying their Name before speaking so we can know who they are?
 
PS  I have a suggestion I hope all of you will do. Whenever you compose an e-mail, or post a message at this Group, please always copy & paste it first into your own e-mail program (which hopefully has a spell checker also) and send it to yourself; then open it and if all looks ok, and all links work correctly, THEN re-copy & paste it  into your e-mail to send it, or re-copy & paste it here to post it to this Yahoo! Group, etc. This way, you will not be embarrassed by mistakes.
 
When you post a message on AIA, the first line of the posting shows up in the message listings, so have some of the meat of the message at that point so folks looking over the messages maybe can find the message they are looking for easier. I did not notice that until after posting my first message.
 
Remember that messages posted to AIA also are sent out as e-mails to all members of AIA who chose to have individual e-mails sent to them. So be careful of what you write; these messages (e-mails) are permanent: they stay on the AIA site, and of course, when we save incoming e-mails on our hard drives, like I do in different subjects named folders. As of recent, I've been moving (saving) some of incoming e-mail to AOL since there appears to be unlimited storage there. That way, where ever I am, I can view those e-mails from you folks, etc. any time I want to reference them, since they are not stored on my home computer. Wherever I take my laptop I can view them. That is real cool I think!
 
I have another suggestion for all folks posting to AIA and sending e-mails to each other.  Always sign your name to the e-mail so we know who you are. Some folks e-mail address gives no clue as to who they are. It would be real nice and helpful to all new folks who join AIA, as well for all of us, if you would make some kind of Signature Line Entry such as I have done below.  Give your Name, E-mail address, website links, phone number, residence or mail address, and a small picture of yourself, or even a short quote you like. That way we would be able to get to know each other faster, and have everything right handy by.
 
Also, I have another suggestion for you folks to consider. I would like to add another page to the ONE in One wiki site and have all of your e-mails addresses, Names, phone numbers, website links, and thumbnail pictures when clicked on would expand to that pictures full size, etc. that is similar to what is given in AIA when you click on "Members". That also would be very handy in helping us know each other better, and to recognize one other and remember our names, etc. It would be something of a visual database or a pictorial directory for all AIA members to view.
 
 

(001)  E-mail Signature Line Entry for at the end of e-mails, and posting messages/e-mail on AIA Yahoo! Groups... How to create one, what to put in it...

 

Always sign your name at the end of all e-mails (or, identify yourself at the beginning of the e-mail), but please, don't just sign your name; use an "e-mail signature" that you have made and saved so you can quickly open the e-mail signature document to copy and paste it at the end of your e-mail. This is my current one; I'm always updating it. One does not need to use ALL entry lines in all e-mails; be selective depending to whom it is being sent to.

 

Using an e-mail signature lets us know who you are. Some folk's e-mail address gives no clue as to who they are. Please give your Name, E-mail address, Website links, Phone number, Residence or mail address, and a Small picture of yourself, or even a Short quote you like, or what ever else you want to add, that is similar to mine. That way we would be able to get to know each other faster, and have everything right handy by.

 

To make an e-mail signature, open your e-mail program and choose write e-mail. In the e-mail write down the following items on separate lines. Notice that my e-mail signature is divided into 3 main parts; (1) about me and my church or organization, (2) about the AFBA and my role in it, and (3) more personal info about me. Once you have it complete, and have put "E-mail Signature Lines-01" in the "Subject" line box, -or however you want to name the file-, and your own e-mail address in the "Send to" box,  you can send the e-mail to yourself by pressing the "Send" button (in AOL).  Now open the e-mail you just sent to yourself, and save it, press "CTRL-S" and type in a file name such as what is in the Subject line, and save it to your Desktop on your computer. At this stage of creating an e-mail signature, notice on your desktop you have 2 new files or entries: the file name that you named it, and the matching file name folder.  This is not what you want yet; you want just 1 file. So open that file name and Re-Save it again; click on "File" then "Save as...". In the "Save Webpage" window dialog box that pops up, do the following. Make sure the top line box says "Desktop". In the "File name:" box, type in -copy & paste- file name and increase the file number by one, but with no file extension name, -that will be filled in next, Now this next part is very important. In the "Save as type:" box, only choose this option: "Webpage, HTML only (*.htm; *.html)". Also make sure the "Encoding" line box says "Unicode (UTF-8)". Now press "Save". Close the window file that is open.  Now go to Desktop and delete that older first file and its folder. Now you have just one file with your e-mail signature in it. Just open it and copy & paste your e-mail signature at the end of any e-mail ready to send.

 

 

 

Love you all!  And what we're doing, trying to do in AFBA
 
Bernard Wotton  
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(My E-Mail Signature; edit in AOL e-mail to myself which has a spell checker)

Address me as "Bernard"
BernardW69@aol.com  (my e-mail address)
White Gay Male, Single, 63, semi-retired, work part-time -almost full-time to keep my insurance, CNA
Protestant Christian
Follower of Jesus Christ, Lord of my life: my God, my Redeemer, and my Friend and Lover
(Member of) Metropolitan Community Church (MCC)
The Rock MCC.org   (church website manager, MCC church member 19 years)

Gay Community Links of The Rock MCC  church

The Rock MCC.wiki   (church wiki site manager) 

..................................................................................................
Attendee of the Atlanta Faith-Based Alliance (AFBA) meetings
(NOT on any AFBA committee)
Member of AIA Yahoo! Groups
History of  AIA, (was AFBA) on the "ONE in One" wiki site...   (my post at AIA Yahoo! Groups)

(Above should have been "History of AFBA ... "; the AIA (was) is the Yahoo! Groups e-mail/message service of AFBA,)

(Which I mistakenly thought AIA was a new name change of AFBA meetings.)

Re: Digest Number 4   (Naming conventions, wiki site, Suggestions) (my post at AIA Yahoo! Groups)

ONE in One   (old wiki site manager; for AFBA use)

GLBT   (new wiki site manager; for AFBA use)

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BLWotton.wiki   (my personal wiki)

Home: 423-615-0032

Cell: 423-933-7708   (rarely use or check)

Mr. Bernard Leon Wotton

10288 Virley Lane

P. O. Box 1700

Collegedale TN  USA  37315-1700
General Health Improvement  -Buy & Drink "Holy Tea"   (my ad, my commercial website)
INSERT A THUMBNAIL PICTURE OF YOURSELF HERE if you have one.
"Be all you were meant to be; have Hope, Peace, Joy, Love; Never give up; Trust; have fun!"
"God is Love; Love God, Love neighbor"
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(002)  Posting an e-mail reply to AIA Yahoo! Groups; Template

 

How to set up a message, post an e-mail reply; next 4 lines: this is how to do it: 
 
    A Greeting &  Date    [use shortest form of both]
    Topic(s), or subject(s) of message in brackets in first line of message; limit each item to 1 or 2 words    [topics, subjects...]  SEE # (004)
    Link to my Original Message Post, or e-mail    [Copy & paste e-mail link here from AIA Yahoo! Groups list of messges]
    Link to other person's Response Post or e-mail to mine    [Copy & paste e-mail link here from AIA Yahoo! Groups list of messges]
 
Start of... and End of....  my message lines... what I write in my post e-mail reply on AIA Yahoo! Groups.
 
Template of new post, or, response to a post...
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Dear NAME, & all,                                       DATE =  March 8, 2008

 
[Naming conventions of our 2 groups, Concerns with wiki site, Suggestions on postings & e-mails.]
 
 
NAME's response:  Re: Digest Number 4
 
My response to NAME, and to everyone else, is next.
=================================================
BEGINNING  -START OF-  NEW MESSAGE  by   BERNARD WOTTON
 
....................................................
 
END  OF  NEW MESSAGE  by   BERNARD WOTTON
=================================================
 
Old Original e-mail post copied... or quoted...
 

(003)  Compose, write out your message first in your E-mail program & send to yourself (or MS Word and save doc)

 

 Whenever you compose an e-mail, or post a message to this AIA Yahoo! Groups, or write text in some document for a wiki page, please always copy & paste it, or compose it, or write it out first in your own e-mail program (which hopefully has a spell checker), and send it to yourself; then open it and inspect it, look it over. If all looks ok, and all links work correctly, THEN re-copy & paste it into your final e-mail to send it, or re-copy & paste it here to post it to this AIA Yahoo! Groups, or re-copy & paste the text of the document into the wiki page, then format the wiki page, etc. This way, you will not be embarrassed by mistakes.


(004)  First line in message/e-mail to Yahoo! Groups always shows up on screen

 

Remember that the FIRST few lines in any message/e-mail to Yahoo! Groups always shows up on screen when one list all messages, or view the message lists by clicking on "Home" or "Messages". Therefore have some of the meat of the message at that point so folks looking over the messages maybe can find the message they are looking for easier.  My suggestion is to have the following in the first 3 lines of any message: (1) short greeting, (2) date, as in Apr 24, 2008 or 4-24-08, and (3) in brackets list your 2 or 3 subjects the message is about, such as, [Meeting date & place, Agenda, Suggestions, Feedback, Conference Call available times, etc.]  SEE # (002)


(005)  ALL members of AIA Yahoo! Groups receive an e-mail to a Message posted to AIA

 

Remember that messages posted to AIA are also sent out as e-mails to ALL members of AIA who chose to have individual e-mails sent to them. So be careful of what you write; these messages (e-mails) are permanent: they stay on the AIA site, and of course, when we save incoming e-mails on our own hard drives, like I do in different subjects named folders. Recently, I've been moving (saving) some of my incoming e-mail to AOL online, since there appears to be unlimited storage there. That way, where ever I am, I can view those e-mails from you folks, etc. any time I want to reference them, since they are not stored on my home computer, but on AOL. Wherever I take my laptop I can view them. That is real cool I think! I never paid any attention to that feature until I began using a laptop computer.

(006)  A

 

Next 20 are from:  Re: Digest Number 4  (message #17)

 

(1)  [From my 1st post]  Whenever you begin to, rather, before you compose an e-mail, or post a message at this AIA Yahoo! Groups, please always copy & paste it first into your own e-mail program (which hopefully has a spell checker) and send it to yourself; then open it and check if all looks OK, and all links work correctly, THEN re-copy & paste it  into your new e-mail to send it to the correct person, or re-copy & paste it here to post it to this AIA Yahoo! Group, etc. This way, one will not be embarrassed by mistakes, broken links, etc.
 
I'm even making notes to myself in e-mails even before I put it into a message, and sending them to myself, testing out what I wrote, then re-copying and re-pasting the content of the older e-mail into a newer e-mail to myself. And I keep doing that until everything is worded just right to the best of my ability, and all links work properly. I tend to be a perfectionist, so writing takes me a long time to do, meditating, thinking out loud, re-wording, etc. until it is just right. Then I think of other things to add, to say, a never ending process...  After every thing is OK, I then sent the e-mail to the intended person, or re-copy & re-paste it into a Message for the AIA Yahoo! Groups. 
 
After the final version of your message is ready to post, find the message you want to "Reply" to in the "Most Recent Messages" list and click on "View All", click on the Message to open it, then Press the "Reply" button at the upper left-hand corner of your screen. Now, in this line: New! Compose your message with Rich-Text Editor (Beta), always click on "Rich-Text Editor (Beta)".  At this point I place the cursor at top of edit screen and press Return 2 times to make extra space at the top of the edit window, and then make a === dash line across the screen to separate my new message from the old message. Now copy your final revised message from your e-mail into the Yahoo! Groups Edit Window, and place it at the top of the window. At this point you can either leave the bottom part containing the old message you are replying to, alone, or delete it, or delete parts of it like the extra spaces, or delete the very bottom part which is not part of any messages but is Yahoo! Groups housekeeping stuff, or delete your old part down there, and just leave the upper new part of the old post which is what you are really replying or responding to. Now concentrate on the n ew message you just pasted into the Edit Window. Check to see if everything is still OK. Now Press the "Preview" button next to the "Send" button. Look it over carefully, BUT -WARNING- DO  NOT  CLICK  ON  ANY  LINKS  in Preview mode; IF YOU DO, ALL of your new MESSAGE  IS LOST FOREVER... I just found out the hard way by doing what I just told you NOT TO DO.  I did not know that would happen; we live by trial and error so many times, don't we? So I had to start all over again. It's a GOOD thing that I was using e-mail to myself with revisions sent to me by e-mail... As it was, I only lost just a little bit of the last minute editing I did after re-copying the revised e-mail into the edit window. So now I had to start again at the top of this paragraph in following the directions I had written thus far. After copying the revised e-mail message back into the edit window, check to see if all is OK. Now Press the "Preview" button next to the "Send" button. Look it over for formatting mistakes, errors, words left out, or out of place, etc. If you find any errors, Press the "Edit" button next to the "Send" button. Notice that the "Preview" button and the "Edit" button switches back and forth between the two. In Edit mode, correct all errors, but be very careful of spelling as there is NO spell checker in the Yahoo! Groups Edit Window. When all is OK again, Press "Preview" for 1 last going over of the message before sending it to the group. Now if all is OK, Press the "Send" button. In just a few seconds your Message will be posted to the AIA Yahoo! Groups, and all members of the group will receive an e-mail containing your Message.  (I can write much better then talking face to face with folks in person.)
 

(007)  A

 

When you e-mail or post to AIA Yahoo! Groups, please put in the Current Date [and Time if you want to] it is sent; that way when one reads older posts and e-mails, one will have some date frame of reference to consider.


(008)  A

 

When you post a message to AIA Yahoo! Groups, the first few line(s) of the posting shows up in the "Most Recent Messages" list (click "View All" to see all the messages), so have some of the meat of the message at that point, or put a list of topics in the 1st line as I did above, so folks looking over the messages maybe can find the message they are looking for easier, instead of re-opening them all until they find what one is looking for. I did not notice that until after posting my first message, and signing in to look at the new messages in the list.


(009)  A

 

Also remember that messages posted to AIA Yahoo! Groups are also sent out as e-mails to all members of AIA Yahoo! Groups who chose to have individual e-mails sent to them. So be careful what you write: be kind, gentle, respectful, always open; these messages (e-mails) are permanent: they stay on the AIA Yahoo! Groups site, and of course, when we save incoming e-mails on our hard drives, like I do in different subject named folders. As of recent, I've been "moving" (saving) some of incoming e-mail to AOL, instead of on my hard drive, since there appears to be unlimited storage at AOL. That way, wherever I am, I can view those e-mails from you folks, etc. any time I want to reference them, since they are not stored on my home computer. Wherever I take my laptop I can view them. That is real cool!


(010)  A

 

I have another suggestion for all folks posting to AIA Yahoo! Groups and sending e-mails to each other.  Always sign your name to the e-mail so we know who you are. Some folks e-mail address gives no clue as to who they are. It would be real nice and helpful to us all if you would make some kind of an E-mail Signature such as I have done below at the end.  Give your Name, E-mail address, how you want to be addressed when talking with others, Race, Gender, Sexual Orientation, Age, Religious background and/or present affiliation, Position within the AFBA meetings group, Website links, Phone number, Residence or mail address, and a small Picture of yourself, or even a short Quote you like, or whatever else you want in it. (Many e-mail programs such as AOL provide that option. I made mine by hand, manually.) That way we would be able to get to know each other faster, and have everything right handy by. Keep the e-mail signature at a handy place so you can copy & paste it at the end of your writings you send out to us. One way is to copy a current version of your e-mail signature and paste it into an e-mail and send it to yourself, then open it, and save it to your computer's Desktop; from there you can open it and copy/paste it when needed. You can always, after you paste it, delete lines or add lines to it depending on who you are sending the e-mail to. Your computer's Desktop is a very handy place for many time-saving things.


(011)  A

 

Also, I have another suggestion for you folks to consider. I would like to add another page to the ONE in One wiki site and have all of your e-mails addresses, names, phone numbers, website links, and thumbnail pictures  --and when clicked on would expand to that pictures full size, etc. that is similar to what is given in AIA Yahoo! Groups when you click on "Members". Basically this would be similar to copying your e-mail signature to a wiki page formatted alphabetically by Name. This would be very handy in helping us know each other better, and to recognize one other and remember our names, etc. It would be something of a visual database or a pictorial directory of all members for all AIA Yahoo! Groups members and friends to view. This would NOT be on the "ONE in One" wiki site since it is the free basic version right now. But this would be temporary on my church's wiki site which is an updated paid educational version, since on it I can make a personal password for a certain wiki page for our use only, for the AFBA group members only and the members of the AIA Yahoo! Groups, to access that personal information so it would be safe. The general password for the "ONE in One" wiki site is: one  -just follow directions on screen.

 
Also, on the basic wiki site there is not much storage space, so that is why I store large files on my church wiki site since it has a very large amount of storage space, most of which is not even in use yet. Our church website also stores most of its files on the church wiki site. If I had to store all those files on our church website, it would cost us a lot of money for the extra storage space. As it is, the wiki storage space is enormous compared to our church space, about 25 times bigger. So we all can take advantage of the extra storage space provided on the church wiki site. Right now I am paying for both of our church's sites, which really isn't very much, compared to other companies that host websites. Microsoft is real expensive, as is most others. 101SiteHosting.com is the company that hosts our church website, and it's not expensive, has very good features, and in the 3 years our website has been up and running, the company's computer servers have maybe been down only once, and that for a short period of time; so I'm very satisfied with their service.
 
And I use Microsoft FrontPage2003 on my computers to create and maintain our church website. I have Microsoft Expression Web installed but have not used it yet, even though it is an update to FrontPage, or rather replaces FrontPage. I'm going to have to experiment on my on computer's hard drives using Expression Web before I start using it on our church website; once I start using it, I cannot go back to FrontPage, since FrontPage is much older technology. And since all is working OK, and the host company still supports FrontPage, I'm in no hurry to convert the website just yet; the biggest reason is that I'm not a programmer, but have to learn the new software through trial and error. I'll do it first on my hard drives a little bit at a time. I would not want to somehow mistakenly destroy parts of our church website.

(012)  A

 

When ever and where possible, make a Link to what ever you are referring to in your e-mails and messages posted in AIA Yahoo! Groups, (or give the Bookmark, or Web Address, or name of organization, etc. so we can look it up), as I've done in many places in this post.


(013)  A

 

Subject Line in a message posted in AIA Yahoo! Groups can only hold 80 characters. Use common abbreviations where possible to keep it shorter. Make the "Subject" line short and to the point. And of course, you can always edit it a little. Or start a new Topic, or post etc. [When you "Reply" to a message, the program automatically fills in the Subject Line and it is placed under the original message in a thread-like manner. I don't know if it still does that if you edit the Subject line. But the Subject line itself can become quite long, and only the 1st 80 characters ever show on screen. So do what seems best to you at the time.]


(014)  A

 

When making a phone call to members, please Identify yourself  by giving your name and what group you identify with, or from what group you are calling about, and give a phone number to reach you if needed.


(015)  A

 

Committees Names:  What are the names & abbreviations for the various committees of our AFBA meetings group? Who is the contact person for each one, and their phone # and e-mail address?  Can general members have a list of each committee's members?  What about each committee's notes, minutes, etc., can they be sent to all members? How about posting each committee's notes, etc. as a message on AIA Yahoo! Groups. And when and where each one is meeting. Are they open to anyone to visit? All of this can also be put on the wiki site.


(016)  A

 

Contact Persons:  Could we have their names and their position within the AFBA meetings group? So we know who to contact concerning various functions within the AFBA meetings group.


(017)  A

 

Word Meanings:  Since we are from many different cultures, religious faiths, etc. whenever one uses a word or phrase that is peculiar to a certain culture, etc. would you give a brief meaning to that phrase so we all will know better what you are talking about. Or make a link to that info when using e-mail or sending messages to the AIA Yahoo! Groups.


(018)  A

 

Addressing each other:  If you want us to address you in a certain way, please let us know how to express it in words. Such as Rev. Rabbi, Ms, Mr. Last Name, first name basis, etc. Nice place would be in the e-mail signature as I have done.


(019)  A

 

Religious background or present affiliation: Would each of you let all of us know this part of yourself also? Nice place would be in the e-mail signature as I have done.


(020)  A

 

Combining #(12), (13), and (14) into a new suggestion. How to talk to each other, how to address each other religiously. When you have a group of Baptists together, or a group of Jews, or a group of Atheists, or a group of Seventh-day Adventists, or a group of Muslins, or a group of MCC folks together, each groups tends to have a common language that they use with each other, and each one in each individual group tends to understand each other. But what happens when these smaller groups come together into a larger group? There could be far less common language among them. And this is the situation we find ourselves in, especially if we truly want to be Interfaith. And this is my opinion as of now; I believe we each should still just be ourselves and not worry too much about how our conversations with each other might sound to the other person. We should learn to adjust to each other's ways of speaking. We should learn about the other folks beliefs, and ask many questions, and not worry too much about feeling foolish for not understanding something that is said, or written. Understanding and trust will come as we get to know each other better. For example, I might say "Happy Easter" to a Muslin person, or Jewish person, or to an Atheist person unwittingly the next time we meet. I would not mean any harm by it, saying it in good faith. And I would hope that the other person would not take offence by it, nor be hurt in any manner. Even if it goes dead against what they believe, I should hope they would be gracious enough about it, and accept it in the good will spirit it was given in. We need to be quite tolerant of each other, and not watching each word we say as to if it might offend someone. This will kill spontaneity, and make it quite dry, uninteresting, less productive... We should be gracious to each other and love each other no matter what. Misunderstandings will go away, and we can do actions -fight for our right in the most non-violent way possible. We can then be about doing the business we came together to do in the first place.


(021)  A

 

Responding to an AIA Yahoo! Groups message:  you can either "Reply" or "Forward" your response to the message you're reading online.


(022)  A

 

To learn how to do things, and do many of the above suggestions , start your own private Yahoo! Groups site and experiment with the different options to see what they do. Also start your own wiki site to learn how to edit wiki pages. Make notes to yourself right on the wiki page as you do things, and experiment. It's fun and very rewarding. Make notes to yourself with e-mails to yourself too.


(023)  A

 

I will try to collect all suggestions, tips, hints, etc. from us all, into one place for reference on the wiki site, where they can be edited as needed for clarity, and new ones added. You know, many of the things that I said I would do on the wiki site, you also could do, or start it, and let other folks help you out in editing wiki pages. That is what I want you all to do... GET  YOUR  FEET  WET! Try editing a wiki page!


024)  A

 

If there are any other things that you want to be put on the wiki site, e-mail the info to me, and I'll be happy to put them on it. If you think the wiki site should be organized in a different manner let me know. And of course you all can edit it yourself! I'll be making separate wiki pages for each of the committees, and for all of the folks whose links are in the "SideBar" tab that is on each wiki page [If you just now clicked on this link, now click on "Home" to see the SideBar tab as it actually looks like on each wiki page]. And anyone else can create their own wiki page also that wants to be a member, or that does attend the meetings.


025)  A

 

The wiki site can be a good place for all of you to put down your thoughts on screen (virtual paper) concerning the different documents that this AFBA meetings group will be making, or are already working on. Every one can see the changes as they are being made, and can contribute their own info and input into the process. The wiki site gives a permanent holding place for all the info and can be viewed by all, and edited, revised by anyone as needed, or suggestions given as to how it might be worded, etc.  Of course, only ONE person can edit a wiki page at a time, when that one is done, then someone else can begin to edit that same page. But all the wiki pages of a wiki site can be edited at the same time by different folks. That is why each of you can have your own wiki page(s), as well as the page you all are looking at, working on, etc. And you can open multiple web browsers, one to view what others are doing, and one for your own work, editing, etc. Do you see the potential value of the wiki site, even if it is never an official part of the AFBA meetings group? It can still be used by all for the betterment of the group. Please seriously consider using the wiki site, in addition to e-mails between each other, phone calls to each other, messages on AIA Yahoo! Groups, and real time meetings that are held every so often.  If you start your own wiki site, please link it to the ONE in One wiki site, if appropriate, and it concerns the AFBA meetings group. The wiki site is also good for doing things in between meetings. Info can be referenced, thoughts written down, ideas sounded out for others to review and consider. I'm excited about a wiki site, what it can do, the potential that it has for moving us forward towards our goals, of real positive action taking place around us. I'm almost as excited about a wiki as I am of computers. A computer has always fascinated me, in how one can type on a keyboard and see the results instantly on a computer monitor screen.  And the same goes for a wiki also, you type words, see them on screen, hit the "Save" button [might have to press the "Back" button on the mouse if it does not Save the 1st time, and Save it again], and wow, your words are on the Internet for all to see, to consider, to take action, to interact with, etc.


(026)  A

 

Remember

 


(027)  A

 

Remember

 


(028)  A

 

Remember

 


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I was banging away, typing by hand on a manual typewriter in High School and College. Boy, just think about the vast differences between an old manual typewriter and a modern day computer. I've been playing with, using computers since around 1985. First computer was a tiny Timex Sinclair hand-held computer (size of a small calculator); then Commodore 64 and Commodore 128; then the best of all, the Commodore Amiga 1000, Amiga 2000, and then Amiga 4000, which was the best on the market at that time. I got rid of the older ones as I upgraded to better ones; then the Amiga 4000 gradually went bad, especially after Commodore went out of business. Couldn't get it repaired, so had to go to the IBM type of computers which most people use today, the PC. My last 2 desktops have been built for me, and my laptop -my first one- is a brand name.
 
 
All these suggestions may seem overwhelming to put into practice all at once, especially  if some of them are brand new ideas to you; but over time they will become second nature, and you will be very glad you learned them.
 
 
Are there any other  concerns about any of the suggestions in this post? Let us know. Are there other general suggestions about e-mails and posting messages that others might want to make? Let us know. Or are there any other suggestions, or comments, or improvements that you see a need of being done within the AFBA meetings group. Let us know. We need your input into all of the workings of the AFBA meetings group. Let us know! Talk on the phone! E-Mail! Post a Message! Edit a wiki page! You go, my Sisters, my Brothers! Let's really get the ball rolling! Let's see some real action!
 
Please, always use the "Rich-Text Editor (Beta)" when composing your new response in AIA; you can do so much more with that, and it looks nicer on screen.
 
When you press "Reply":  The "To" line should be the address of the AIA Yahoo! Groups, or, the address of the owner of the AIA Yahoo! Groups: see in the line's pull-down menu. Most of the time it will be filled in by default with the AIA Yahoo! Groups address [which is: atlantainterfaithalliance@yahoogroups.com], and will be sent to the whole group so all members receive a copy of your message by e-mail.
 
When you press "Forward":  The "To" line is blank, empty; you have to enter an e-mail address by hand manually, and it only goes to that one person, NOT to the whole group... You have to have a copy of an e-mail address of the person so you can paste it into the "To" line. This could be use to send a copy of a message to someone not in our group who might be very interested in the subject. But don't spam, don't send it to folks who do not want it.
 
Please always make a link to the original message somewhere at the beginning of your reply so we can read the original message (It seems like when you reply to (or forward) a message, the part of the original message that gets copied automatically into the new message at the bottom looses all formatting, and is hard to read). To make a link to the original message replying to, Click on the original message to open it in AIA Yahoo! Groups. Copy the address in the address bar. In your response type a few words describing the message, or Copy the Subject line (and edit it to make shorter). Then highlight those words or Subject line, and select the "Add a Link" button in the menu bar, and paste the address copied from the address bar in the box that pops up. That's it. Link is made.  OR, you can just go to the Most Recent Message list and click "View All", find the post, and copy the Subject Line Link by placing cursor at one end and dragging to the other end to highlight it, then press Ctrl-C to copy link; now paste it (Ctrl-V) at the point where you want it.
 
How much to copy of the original message you are replying to, there are many ways to do this. Of course, you can delete as much as you want to of the original message in your reply. And of course, you can just copy the parts that you are responding to in your reply. The reason I say this is because over a short period of time the posted messages can become very, very long with non-relevant stuff towards the end of the message... Now, what I just said is OK to do and true, but I've learned from pass experience on AOL years ago that some folks do not like you messing around with any part their post, and think you are being dishonest when you only quote part of their message, thinking maybe you're taking it out of context, etc. But that is how it is done, and it is not being dishonest, untruthful. I may only want to respond to only a small part of a message, so I quote that part only. That is why I suggested to put a Link to the original Message near the top of your reply new message referencing the original message, as I have done, so others can read the full original message. It saves space and time when reading messages.
 
Also, your reply, new message, answer, or response , can be either near the beginning of the original copied message or at the end. I hope whatever you post, say, write, is at the beginning or top of the new message reply, so we won't have to skim through all the old stuff to find what you just posted. Anyway, after a few postings from each other, we will get to know how each one does this, since we are all different, and also learn how the Yahoo! Groups itself works, since we all have varying skill levels in using computers. Posting to Yahoo! Groups is new to me, so I'm still learning. I made and started a personal Yahoo! Groups just for my own use so I can experiment in how it does things..
 
Also at each meeting, when you talk before the group, or in conversations or discussions within the group, would you please first say your full name and what organization you represent. That way we will get to know you better, and new comers will know who you are. If a microphone is available please use it, since some of us might be hearing impaired, or challenged; if not speak loudly so all can hear.
 
Also wear your name tag at all times, before, during and after each meeting.
 
Before this, I was saving many of my e-mails in the AOL Personal Filing Cabinet with automatic backups which goes to my computer's hard drives, but every so often the Personal Filing Cabinet messes up and I loose all saved stuff in the AOL program folders -it becomes corrupt and useless. By saving (moving) this e-mail onto the AOL servers at their headquarters gives me much more safety and ease of retrieving those e-mails for later reference. I also save e-mail manually by hand to my hard drives for safe keeping.

 

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